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  Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

  by Isambard Crater in

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  that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

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  The badges given out were the same as all the other J.W's wore. This year, because of the Manchester concert bomb and other events, security at R.C's was tightened up so everyone had to wear a lapel badge to get in. James Mixon
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  Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

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  Sorry for checking in so late after my OP. Yes, I was referring to Liverpool too and the number was counted from people turning up saying they were disfellowshipped or inactive, and were given lapel badges for security reasons.
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  Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

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  But don't they realise that the "love" shown is highly conditional and they will be DFed again if they adopt any modern values whatsoever, and that being told by the leaders to avoid all worldly contact is wrong?

  There's that scripture about a dog returning to it's vomit.
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  Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  that's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..

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  Isambard Crater

  That's what I've been told by a family member (Elder) who went to one of the Regional Conventions in the North of the U.K lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to Jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says.
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  The WatchTower conductor lied on stage

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.

  when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?

  i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.

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  Isambard Crater

  The paragraph you've all pasted into this thread is the one I was referring to, yes.

  Personally, I also took "everything" literally meaning if it was a choice between your house and clothing vs. the JW org or kingdom, you'd have to be willing to give them up - which is what got under the skin of this study in attendance.
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  The WatchTower conductor lied on stage

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.

  when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?

  i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.

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  On Sunday Morning in the WatchTower study, a "Study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "I have a question. When the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics I own? I mean, that sounds a bit much".

  The WatchTower Conductor said in response; "No, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything. It just means we must be willing to be like the pearl merchant, but that doesn't mean giving everything up. It's just about balance, not being excessive with big houses and fancy cars."

  Erm, that was a lie, right?
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  JWs biggest problem is not doctrinal issues

  by Chook in

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  it's biggest problems are associated with its lack of genuine love and concern for the rank& file.

  the average person doesn't need a food critic to tell them their hamburger is shit, in the same manner the average person can discern kindness and love.

  gbs fake love and concern is evident in the way head office deals with victims of sexual abuse by jw clergy.

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  Very, very true. If I discern that someone is weak, having problems, depressed or sick in some other way, my heart always moves me to be there for them.

  Since those descriptions became true of myself, who has reached out to me from my congregation out of genuine love and persisted in keeping in contact with me? NOBODY.

  And it hurts like hell, as the org always tells us that fellow Witnesses are the only people we should associate with. But they are all conditional, fake and only help people who immediately respond and become spiritually strong again within a few days.
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  Pale Emperor Seems To Have Developed A Fetish

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
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  dont worry, this is safe for work... :).

  remember when we were jws and we were told not to "model ourselves after the world"?

  meaning no tattoos, no non-approved hairstyles, clothing to be not too tight, not too short etc etc etc?

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  I wouldn't say I'm attracted to people like this physically but I've met and know plenty and they're generally really, really nice people, interesting, engaging, intelligent... many of the things sadly lacking in the BOrg. One of my best friends has pink spiky hair and piercings.
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  Brother & Sisters, Aunts and Uncles.....husband and wife

  by menrov in

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  was just thinking about the practice in wt (and i believe some other religions as well) to call your fellow female (baptized) jw a sister, a brother if it is a man.

  children call older people aunt or uncle.

  so, at home, i can call my wife by her first name etc.

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  I definitely still hear pre-teen J.W's calling people aunty and uncle at the Kingdom Hall, encouraged to do so by there parents. I even hear people in their 20s calling people aunty and uncle, but when people reach their 30s most then call others by their first names.
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  Really struggling to go on

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, so much has happened in my life over the years and continues to happen, but i won't go into the details as it would take a long time.. i don't really know why, but i returned to "the truth" 15 years ago.

  in 2012 when the tv broadcasting station launched, i started to develop doubts.

  the australian royal commission and other scandals made me angrier, and i now don't believe most of the core teachings.. the only reason i show up at 5 or 6 meetings each month is to keep in contact with my parents and a few other family members.. but it's killing me, literally.

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  Isambard Crater

  Thanks for sharing your eventually positive story Mickey mouse

  I'm assuming your faded and didn't DA or get DFed?